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京剧实在没有欧洲音乐所具有的世界性。京剧甚至没有中国很多其它艺术那样的民族性。它只是一种地方戏。让四川人演唱京剧大概都不会够味道。

我的意思是,欧洲乐团普遍水平较高,但就欧洲音乐所具有的世界性,在世界各地的广泛转播和被各民族人的普遍接受来说,谈“正宗的”已经没有太大的意义。朗朗演奏的贝多芬和基辛演奏的贝多芬,肯定是不同的,但差别不是哪个更“正宗的”的问题。

曾经看到有人说傅聪演奏的肖邦有东方(中国)味,我真不知道如何听出来的。

另外,欧洲音乐这种普世性,不仅表现在古典音乐遗产方面,而且在音乐的理论和技术方面。比如中国的音乐学院和音乐教育中,中国主流音乐(现代艺术音乐和流行音乐)的创作中,理论和技术采用的基本上是欧洲音乐的体系(更准确的说,应当是欧洲人过去创立的体系)。



>plato wrote:
>let me see if I have another way to explain it : no matter how Chinese sing Peking Opera, it is always Peking Opera. There are something other people are unable to learn, e.g. culture, tradition, etc. that is what I meant by 'authentic'.
>
>I prefer Chinese sing Peking Opera, and European play European tradtional music (classical music in most cases).
>
>otherwise, it is like the Chinese saying: scratching yourself outside your boots.
>
>it is true that 每个人has 自己心中的贝多芬。but there is only one Beethoven. (sounds familiar?)
   
  plato     06/07/2006 13:34
>BBB wrote:
>京剧实在没有欧洲音乐所具有的世界性。京剧甚至没有中国很多其它艺术那样的民族性。它只是一种地方戏。让四川人演唱京剧大概都不会够味道。
>
if you had known more about preformance, you wonldn't say this any more.

>我的意思是,欧洲乐团普遍水平较高,但就欧洲音乐所具有的世界性,在世界各地的广泛转播和被各民族人的普遍接受来说,谈“正宗的”已经没有太大的意义。朗朗演奏的贝多芬和基辛演奏的贝多芬,肯定是不同的,但差别不是哪个更“正宗的”的问题。

European's play is more close to the tradition. it is irreplacable, can't be learnt, can't be adopted. that is what I mean by 'authentic'.

Just a few years ago, major american orchestra were led by European conductors. There is still no Asian composor who has made any mark in classic music in terms of setting the standard. Yourself is another good example: most of anything you recommended on the net were played by Europeans.

By the trend the classical music business goes, one day, it will become European only again. Nobody else will give a dame. it is dead music.

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>曾经看到有人说傅聪演奏的肖邦有东方(中国)味,我真不知道如何听出来的。

I haven't listened to Fou Ts'ong's play for a while, no comments yet in that regard. I am not suprised when 有人说傅聪演奏的肖邦有东方(中国)味 given some of the comments he has made over the years.

But 朗朗演奏 is definitely Chinese (folk artistsic type of Chinese).
>
>另外,欧洲音乐这种普世性,不仅表现在古典音乐遗产方面,而且在音乐的理论和技术方面。比如中国的音乐学院和音乐教育中,中国主流音乐(现代艺术音乐和流行音乐)的创作中,理论和技术采用的基本上是欧洲音乐的体系(更准确的说,应当是欧洲人过去创立的体系)。
>

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>>plato wrote:
>>let me see if I have another way to explain it : no matter how Chinese sing Peking Opera, it is always Peking Opera. There are something other people are unable to learn, e.g. culture, tradition, etc. that is what I meant by 'authentic'.
>>
>>I prefer Chinese sing Peking Opera, and European play European tradtional music (classical music in most cases).
>>
>>otherwise, it is like the Chinese saying: scratching yourself outside your boots.
>>
>>it is true that 每个人has 自己心中的贝多芬。but there is only one Beethoven. (sounds familiar?)